Fear Me Out Guest SPEAKERS

This week I'd like to welcome Jennifer Vogel, onto the podcast. I've known Jennifer for a long time, probably at least 15 years or more. And she is another mental health practitioner in Santa Barbara that I greatly admire and respect. And so I wanted her to come on the show and talk a bit about who she is and how she came to becoming a therapist. And she's a co-owner of the Jettas Counseling Center with her husband, Dr. Michael Vogel that I interviewed last week. And I just wanted everybody to know again what to look for in a therapist. And I think that Jennifer is a prime example of someone who's extremely kind, very maternal, and really talented as a psychotherapist. So, I'd like to welcome Jennifer to the show. I hope you guys enjoy her interview. There are two basic motivating forces, fear and love. When we're afraid we pull back from life. When we're in love, we open up to all that life has to offer with passion, excitement, and acceptance.